I spent a very pleasant lunchtime on Tuesday with John Tobias, who tried manfully to teach me history when I was at Gunnersbury Grammar School for boys in the 1950s. Gunnersbury, a Catholic school, was run like a cross between a boot-camp and a Jesuit seminary. Corporal punishment, The Whack, was handed out as easily and frequently as capital punishment in the 17th and 18th centuries, and was administered with equal enthusiasm, on the buttocks, with a thick rubber strap, The Tolley.
At Gunnersbury, boys had two options: either they shone academically, or they excelled at sport. (A very few did both. They were the superstars.) Otherwise, and I was an ‘otherwise’, they were largely condemned to the scrapheap. Admittedly I was extremely lazy, but Gunnersbury was supposed to be a very good school - I should have presented a challenge; instead the school utterly failed with me. I always remembered John Tobias though, ‘Toby’, as a nice gentle man, unlike the majority of the other masters, for whom classroom duty seemed to be a chore to be got over with the absolute minimum of effort. He did not send boys for The Whack, instead he tried to engage their enthusiasm with his own passion for his subject. Some of the teachers were hardly better than sadists. I remember ‘Father’ Chapman with no pleasure at all. He used to teach us Latin, and on one occasion lifted me up by my right ear for some minor infraction. Chapman eventually became headmaster. I have seen it written somewhere that Gunnersbury regarded itself as a minor public school. Certainly it advertised itself as fee-paying during the war, and although I won a scholarship there, I know that the parents of at least one of the boys in my class were paying fees for him. I attended a reunion of old boys for the first time recently, and although it was enjoyable I felt a slight feeling of fraud about being there. We remembered the jolly japes and the nicknames of the masters: Patch (he had a port-wine stain), Slasher (he looked like a teddy-boy), Jock (Scottish), Lighning O’Shea (he had a stutter), Dicky (Father Doyle) and Chippy (Father Chapman). But it was not a happy time for me. I was hopeless academically and I detested sport; on one occasion on the rugby field the games master, Wally ‘Slasher’ Cain, decided that I was too clean – naturally I avoided scrums or any other nasty and dangerous contact with the other boys. Slasher detailed two boys to drag me, face down, through the mud until I was sufficiently dirty. And people wonder why I detest rugby. I did have one single moment of glory though. We had a poetry competition when I was in the second year, 1957 or 1958 it must have been. I recited The Lion and Albert from memory, attempting to imitate Stanley Holloway’s accent. There was only time for me to relate the first few verses, but while the judges were deliberating who had won, I was invited on to the stage to recite the entire piece. Mr & Mrs Ramsbottom’s son Albert has been eaten by a lion at Blackpool Zoo, and the magistrate has decided that nothing can be done. He addressed the Ramsbottoms: …He said that he hoped the Ramsbottoms, Would have further sons to their name. At this mother got proper blazin’ “And thank you sir kindly!” Said she. “What spend all our lives raising children to feed bloody lions, Not Me!” I sat down to thunderous applause from the masters as well as the boys. Actually, in the original Stanley Holloway version, I think the word used was "ruddy". But rising to the occasion I extemporized, and got away with it. So yes, my only memorable achievement at Gunnersbury Catholic Grammar School, was to say “bloody”, in front of the entire school, to universal approbation.
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pete Dwyer
14/6/2014 08:30:20 am
Hi iwas at Gunnersbury Grammar 1954-1959
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Laurence Dwyer
30/7/2019 10:54:21 pm
Is that Peter dwyer, my uncle, brother of Patrick (my father), Anne, Michael and Larry?
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Maurice Punch
10/7/2015 02:44:26 am
I was at Gunnersbury in the 1950s and was much helped by John Tobias, who must be getting on now. I`d very much like to get in touch with him if someone can help me trace him (I now live abroad). Maurice Punch.
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Peter Maggs
10/7/2015 05:05:19 am
Maurice, email me at peter,maggs at mirlibooks.com and I'll send you his address.
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Peter
10/7/2015 05:06:36 am
That should be peter.maggs at mirlibooks.com
M.Punch
10/7/2015 05:17:30 am
will do
Michael Sharples
23/8/2015 03:16:27 am
.Hi, I was in the same form as you at Gunnersbury in the 1950s.
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Stuart Manger
21/11/2015 10:42:29 am
John Tobias was the pick. Did a project on the Industrial Revolution - I chose Chartism - and it effectively politicised me. Also began acting and directing career. Chapman was devious, unscrupulous and violent.
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Michael Duffy
5/1/2016 05:59:34 am
I remember that recital of Albert and the Lion. Didn't Stuart Manger (who I seem to remember seeing once on University Challenge) recite Hilaire Belloc's Tarantella in the same contest?
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Maurice Punch
10/1/2016 04:03:20 pm
I have been informed that John Tobias, aged 93, died of a stroke on the 10th November and has been buried in Acton.
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Michael Duffy
12/2/2016 12:57:52 pm
Obit in the Guardian
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Chris Browne
22/4/2016 08:03:32 pm
Just casually browsing the Internet, entered Gunnersbury and came across this site and found your entry re Toby - the best and only real teacher at the school. Would love to hear from you!
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Peter Maggs
23/4/2016 10:03:08 am
Chris,
Pat. O'Brien
26/12/2016 11:02:11 am
1951-56 Eisenhower, Tito went by open-topped limos with Churchill watched at main gate
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Tony Mccann
13/8/2017 02:10:54 pm
I remember the recitation well but also remember Peter Sharples' recitation
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Sean and Brendan Lally
4/12/2017 02:30:48 pm
Sean was a 1958-64 student and I was 60-67, we survived, we knew no better, I appreciate and agree with the memories.
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Peter Gouldstone
14/3/2019 11:36:09 am
I was a pupil at Gunnersbury from1935 to1943 and was interested wato note that Father Doyle was still teaching post war,and must I think have been the longest serving master.I well remember him as a great rugby enthusiast and player although soccer and cricket were the only sports at school. In1939 on September 3rd we were evacuated to Chesham Bois and shared half day schooling with Amersham Grammar School. This was the period of the phoney war and at term end we returned to a sandbagged and railwaysleepered Gunnersbury where we continued our schooling interrupted from time to time by the sirens .
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tony mccann
14/3/2019 04:40:52 pm
Anyone wishing to attend the venerable old boys reunion should contact me at [email protected]
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Laurence Dwyer
27/7/2019 11:28:06 pm
Tony, we worked at BA together.
Frank Grimer
17/2/2021 05:22:42 pm
My time at Gunnersbury (1940 -1949) overlapped yours so you probably sent me for the Whack more than once. I had the distinction of being the only boy in the sixth form not made a
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Francis Grimer
22/10/2021 01:57:15 pm
Re-reading your post Gouldstone it occurred to me you might have known my brother, Peter Grimer, who was 4 years ahead of me at Gunnersbury. He lived to 90 and would have lived many years more if he hadn't stepped off the narrow pavement in Victoria Road, Woodbridge, into the path of a car. :-)
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Brendan Lally
24/7/2019 11:18:15 am
Still side stepping the cemetery, keep me in contact with survivors
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Laurence Dwyer
27/7/2019 11:25:28 pm
Brendan
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Jim Hopkins
24/1/2020 04:48:19 am
Many of the names responding here are familiar to this senile old fossil. I attended Gunnersbury 1951 through 57 - I got out of the hell hole as soon as possible. Have to agree with the views of Chippie - seem to remember he spent most of his classroom time solving The Times crossword puzzle instead of teaching. Also agree with everyone’s opinion of Toby although perhaps surprisingly I also got along with Jock Currie and Burke. My true nemesis was Jack Connor who came back to haunt me several years later when I married a Canadian science teacher and he resurfaced as her head of department at St. Anslems in Southall.
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Vincent Fearon
16/2/2020 04:23:49 pm
Hi Jim
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Jim Hopkins
17/2/2020 07:05:21 pm
Good to hear from you,Vince. Yes,let's stay in touch. You can reach me at [email protected] 4/1/2022 11:33:36 pm
Dear Jim:
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Jim Hopkins
8/1/2022 12:59:27 am
Colin, I have encountered some problems trying to contact you via your website. Do you have an e-mail address I could use. Mine is [email protected]. 18/12/2021 08:03:47 pm
I attended Gunnersbury Grammar in 1953/1954. My family emigrated to Georgetown, Ontario, Canada via the liner Franconia on its last trip. Took ten days in very rough seas. Arrived in New York, December 21st, 1954 and took the train up to Toronto. I am thrilled to see Jim Hopkins name as we used to take the tube together when we lived in Ruislip. Very glad to stumble upon this site while trying to find out what classes we took in the first form. I remember Jock and a particularly nasty teacher, whose name escapes me who taught Latin or French. I remember captaining a junior cricket team that played another school in the park. I'll finish the story later. Love to hear from any of you. Semi-retired now and working on a memoir called Leaving London so any anecdotes about Gunnerbury would be welcome.
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Jim Hopkins
23/12/2021 11:48:23 pm
Colin, I remember you well. If you are still in Georgetown, it would appear that unknowingly we were comparatively near neighbors for some twenty years as I was located east along highway 7 in Unionville. If any time in the new year you wish to make contact and reminisce, my Email address is - [email protected]
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Patrick doolan
15/11/2022 06:04:42 pm
Interested to read the comments. I think I was in the same class as Tony McCann. Any more reunions?
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